tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post5183144495402151469..comments2023-06-18T02:22:25.662-07:00Comments on You Can Have it All: Gratitude is Everything: Large Family DynamicsFarmer Mamahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01844275712003531089noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-76953245045508552522011-09-19T14:22:04.792-07:002011-09-19T14:22:04.792-07:00Hi Janis,
I adore you. I have been following your ...Hi Janis,<br />I adore you. I have been following your blog for years as you've woven in an out of a "churchified" state. I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian group, am married to a (nice) fundamentalist man who is two decades older than me, and I have a tiny quiver of children (homeschooled). I also attend a large allegedly fundamentalist church. AND SECRETLY I CANNOT STOP READING BOOKS about biblical manuscripts, compilations, and and scriptural contradictions. Although my background could not be any more different from yours, I promise you, even the most fundamentalist churches have a few quiet souls who simply cannot buy what they are being taught on Sundays or at their weekly gender segregated Bible studies.<br /><br />I believe in a Creator. I believe that Creator is brilliant. From Scripture and observation, I cannot discern whether this Creator is benevolent, involved, or even moral.<br /><br />You are so not alone. Marcus Aurelius was a great man. He was no a Christian. He was morally impeccable and many Christians loathed him for it. If you get bored, read him:).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-36168613329780783512011-09-19T10:31:27.131-07:002011-09-19T10:31:27.131-07:00Heidi, no prob!Heidi, no prob!Janisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-61210015353513841312011-09-19T09:47:18.259-07:002011-09-19T09:47:18.259-07:00accept my apology :)
* I am a christian but I am...accept my apology :) <br /><br />* I am a christian but I am not perfect and never claim to be...Tuff Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01765259911369062194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-91513421628401994232011-09-19T08:41:14.585-07:002011-09-19T08:41:14.585-07:00Janis, I wasn't talking to you I was talking t...Janis, I wasn't talking to you I was talking to the past poster that addressed me, I guess I should've said that, sorry ....I only stated the truth (as I know it)...Why try to explain my convictions to deaf ears (especially when taking a father that truly is taking the roll of being a loving/caring/protective parent and demeaning it to sound sexual is beyound me)...I will continue to pray and I am sorry my comment upset you, I hope you will except my apology...I think that you are a wonderful person I have known you since babycenter and have enjoyed talking with you..You have been given such a big family at an young age and I think thats what drew me to you...I appreciate that we have the same goals in taking care of ourselves and health...I am a simple women and my words are to the point, I don't candy coat them and it might offend some that get their feelings hurt..YOu have had some posters that I don't agree with but that's their opinion and I stay out of it ..I am not a hypocrite, I live my life for the Lord and stand firm in it, my life is not false and a hypocrite lives a false life (i think my blog reflects that well)...I was stating my opinion and people will like it or not, I really don't care, my life is to reflect the Lord and glorify Him in all I do and my statement was that..Ignorant is without knowlegde so I guess that's why I said that, I can't explain my faith if its going to be demeaned especially when I was addressing you and no other ...I do agree with a past poster that said you need to have it in your heart, and no book or etc. will give you that...My suggestion on the sermon was just to reflect my conviction and I thought it articulated that well...<br />God Bless you and your family....Tuff Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01765259911369062194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-22852343235911764572011-09-19T07:11:16.208-07:002011-09-19T07:11:16.208-07:00Heidi, I just have to laugh at that comment. The ...Heidi, I just have to laugh at that comment. The religious "I'll pray for you" like you just said it, is the equivalent of the southern "bless your heart", aka a big ol' fuck you. <br /><br />Just because anyone like me or Janis choose not to believe, it does NOT mean we are ignorant. THAT exact attitude plays a huuuuge part in why I want nothing to do with your religion. You are not welcoming, loving or understanding to someone unless they believe in the same thing as you. Maybe you should do a little soul searching as to why you feel that way.gina r.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-60291307197811261932011-09-19T07:00:45.997-07:002011-09-19T07:00:45.997-07:00Sonya and Cindy thank you!
Heidi, that arrogant at...Sonya and Cindy thank you!<br />Heidi, that arrogant attitude is exactly why I have come to despise religion and to be honest, I was hoping my blog would open the eyes of some of the hypocrisy and corruption in religions and you are doing a fine job portraying that to us all, so thank you!Janisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-85831147363195840232011-09-19T06:53:49.521-07:002011-09-19T06:53:49.521-07:00Wow I am shocked at some of these comments. People...Wow I am shocked at some of these comments. People calling u ignorant???? Of course everyone wants to believe in something, that is why there are so many forms of religion. I will never agree 100% with any religion unless I decided to form my own. But, for People that call themselves Christians to continue to put others down for not having their faith and their beliefs is NOT Christian at all. <br /><br />Weather a person chooses to believe or not believe, god loves everyone and does not judge. A true Christian would not judge either. For those that are judging you for what you choose to believe or not believe is crap! You do not judge anyone.<br /><br />Living your life in a true manor is to raise your children not to judge. To treat others as equals and to help not only their parents but others. Just because one attends church and calls themselves a Christian doesn't make them good people, especially not when they are judging you.<br /><br />It's so sad in a world that people find the Ned to put others down so much.<br /><br />Hang on there Janis.Cindy @ Marriedtothemilitary {dot} nethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273860930969894864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-69952684707421567672011-09-18T23:25:03.546-07:002011-09-18T23:25:03.546-07:00Janis, it seems as though you are still looking fo...Janis, it seems as though you are still looking for answers and honestly I don't think you will ever find them unless you sit down and believe what is in your heart. Your answers will not come from watching a video or reading a book or any websites that mock the Christian faith. As a Christian woman and seeing where the Lord has brought me from I can not deny that He is there. I would love to share my testimony with you sometime. Good luck in your search for the truth you are looking for. Sonya W.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-32101357904635532172011-09-18T15:42:19.713-07:002011-09-18T15:42:19.713-07:00I am sorry for your ignorance and I will pray for ...I am sorry for your ignorance and I will pray for you....Tuff Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01765259911369062194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-57086686960025845052011-09-18T14:02:26.845-07:002011-09-18T14:02:26.845-07:00I also don't support the stay at home daughter...I also don't support the stay at home daughter movement. My daughters should have an education to fall back on...husbands (or wives!!) get sick, die, leave their spouses, loose jobs...any number of things can happen.<br /><br />My daughters need to be able to stand up for their convictions in the real world, with people that disagree with them and agree with them. Have people who challenge them and help them grow as a person. Sheltering them at 20something years old as sahd is dangerous.gina r.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-88454356162744483902011-09-18T13:54:18.063-07:002011-09-18T13:54:18.063-07:00Gina CREEEEEEPY! wow, don't know what to say a...Gina CREEEEEEPY! wow, don't know what to say as that speaks for itself. Reminds me of something straight out of rethinking vision forum. Theres some creepy shit on there too with old Dads and theirs daughters staring creepily seductively into his eyes or even kissing him and they are like 22 still at home under his "protection." Religion is so fascinating in how much of the world is run on it.Janisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-12576050280360674212011-09-18T07:17:15.103-07:002011-09-18T07:17:15.103-07:00Oh, good...Its only 25 minutes long....Blessings, ...Oh, good...Its only 25 minutes long....Blessings, HeidiTuff Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01765259911369062194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-26579585120241430462011-09-18T06:36:37.338-07:002011-09-18T06:36:37.338-07:00Heidi I might today if I get some quiet free time....Heidi I might today if I get some quiet free time.<br /><br />Elena, how sad about your grandpaJanisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-966115183367176932011-09-18T01:43:23.924-07:002011-09-18T01:43:23.924-07:00I´m happy you are teaching your children to be res...I´m happy you are teaching your children to be responsible adults! It´s such a pity that boys aren´t allowed to cook, sew or babysit, while the girls can´t be outdoors! My parents have always encouraged both my brother and me to do all tasks around the house. <br /><br />My grandfather used to love cooking, something that amazed my grandmother (according to her, she couldn´t believe it when she got married and my grandfather said he wanted to fix lunch for them!). He had to hide that passion most of his life, because it wasn´t "appropiate", and in a small town, everyone would have laughed at him had they known. It made him very sad to share that part of him with only the closest family members. <br /><br />So if your boys want to do something considered "feminine", give them the chance! They will love the opportunity!Elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152460799174310546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-32868584956641107502011-09-17T17:53:04.825-07:002011-09-17T17:53:04.825-07:00*consider listening to it..:)*consider listening to it..:)Tuff Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01765259911369062194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-43248189873004856672011-09-17T16:58:39.759-07:002011-09-17T16:58:39.759-07:00Janis
Did you listen to the sermon I recommended i...Janis<br />Did you listen to the sermon I recommended in another post(Voddie Baucham 'Why I choose to believe the Bible')????? I know that will sum up your doubts and give you a biblical understanding. Please concern listening to it. He also has a video on youtube . <br /><br />Blessings, HeidiTuff Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01765259911369062194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-34125597008562027912011-09-17T14:37:46.634-07:002011-09-17T14:37:46.634-07:00*the*theJanisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-54919749808159097362011-09-17T14:36:53.846-07:002011-09-17T14:36:53.846-07:00As for throwing the baby out with the bathwater, I...As for throwing the baby out with the bathwater, I have not called myself athiest. I find myself doubting a lot, always have. My biggest issue is with Bible innerancy. I may come to appreciate the Bible someday from another perspective, I may not? I just know watching Banned From the Bible and then reading Greek Mythology recently reallllllly changed my views of teh Bible.Janisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-76795974563877669782011-09-17T14:33:53.380-07:002011-09-17T14:33:53.380-07:00This post was definately seperating fundie vs non ...This post was definately seperating fundie vs non religious, not just a regular ol christian who doesnt take the bible to be 100% literal.Janisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-86689525905732209752011-09-17T12:53:09.520-07:002011-09-17T12:53:09.520-07:00I think that your information regarding raising a ...I think that your information regarding raising a Christian family is quite skewed. Perhaps in the fundamentalist Duggar family things are as you described, but that's not the way things are in my Christian family. Being a Christian is not about the rules that you got so hung up on, but in the deep belief that God loves us so much that he offers us salvation from our sinful ways through Christ. I think it is a good idea for you to take a break from all walks of faith at this time as you work on deprogramming yourself from the life you were attempting to live. I just hope you recognize that the stuff you got so hung up on is quite insignificant compared to the knowledge of a loving God. My favorite saying is "God's ways are not our ways" :)kdwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16710720599343875599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-57829413969824063162011-09-17T12:11:39.752-07:002011-09-17T12:11:39.752-07:00I guess I am training my Boys to be leaders of the...I guess I am training my Boys to be leaders of their family, it doesn't mean that they can't cook or clean...My eldest son can make an awesome breakfast but he also knows how to fix things....I am not sure what you read but if you want to watch something that's thought provoking, I would recommend the documentary 'The Monsterous Regiment of Women' ....I don't want to give up on you, Janis, I feel deep down you really want to believe...I loved all your posts on being a wife and mother, the post on feminine clothes I really liked...I will continue to pray for you...Blessings, HeidiTuff Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01765259911369062194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-38957440415742978592011-09-17T12:08:01.854-07:002011-09-17T12:08:01.854-07:00I was raised in a rather fundamentalist household,...I was raised in a rather fundamentalist household, although my parents were more moderate than my grandparents and in-laws. My husband has a PhD in scripture and teaches in a nice little Catholic college. We're raising our 3 (soon-to-be-4) kids to be responsible adults who can care for themselves whether they marry or not. We don't believe in inerrancy of scripture, yet we manage to have vibrant faith. We don't teach our kids that it's all literal. We've gone through our agnostic periods as well, but we always come back to this kernel of faith that has sustained us. For us it would be ungrateful not to give credit to God for what could only be miraculous blessings. I think there's room not to throw the baby out with the bath water.NDmommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04631095462543937245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2723444897263876510.post-85533493249881709842011-09-17T11:24:38.301-07:002011-09-17T11:24:38.301-07:00We grew up in a family of all girls, so there wasn...We grew up in a family of all girls, so there wasn't a separation of chores for us. Each of us had a chance to mow the lawn, take the trash out, and clean around the house. Now that i'm married and have a child of my own (boy 3yr), I find my self fixing the sprinklers, mowing the lawn and weed whacking, and the teen girls ask why my husband can't do it... I said to her, I've got two hands, and this is my house too, so why can't i do things like this around my home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com